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	<title>Comments on: New MacBook Pro: now with 20% less battery power</title>
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		<title>By: J. Holiday</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112980</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Holiday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 15:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The macbook pro battery is a piece of crap. This is my second battery and this one is bulging as well.
Just finished a wasted conversation on the phone with what the apple rep calls one of his ‘seniors’ and this guy was no help.
I’d previously posted this issue to their site when it first occurred. Apple is savvy at suppressing the reports of battery issues on their site. It will not let you post more than once on the same issue.
I own two macbook pros and will not purchase a third for the next child going to college!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The macbook pro battery is a piece of crap. This is my second battery and this one is bulging as well.<br />
Just finished a wasted conversation on the phone with what the apple rep calls one of his ‘seniors’ and this guy was no help.<br />
I’d previously posted this issue to their site when it first occurred. Apple is savvy at suppressing the reports of battery issues on their site. It will not let you post more than once on the same issue.<br />
I own two macbook pros and will not purchase a third for the next child going to college!</p>
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		<title>By: Serialbyte</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112664</link>
		<dc:creator>Serialbyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 02:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when you&#8217;re using the 9600M (did you expect other results?). As our good friend Ryan Block noted, the new batteries sport a 20 percent lower energy rating, (60Wh to 50Wh for the Pro, 55Wh to 45Wh [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when you&#8217;re using the 9600M (did you expect other results?). As our good friend Ryan Block noted, the new batteries sport a 20 percent lower energy rating, (60Wh to 50Wh for the Pro, 55Wh to 45Wh [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Abhishek</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112553</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhishek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new 17 incher is here with the highest battery life ever in a macbook: 8 hours!</description>
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		<title>By: Macbook con cuerpo de aluminio en camino &#124; Emiliano Elias</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112526</link>
		<dc:creator>Macbook con cuerpo de aluminio en camino &#124; Emiliano Elias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dudé. Y dudé porque leí algunos reviews que aclaraban que la nueva batería de la nueva Macbook de aluminio era más chica y.... Pero luego encontré que otros estaban muy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] dudé. Y dudé porque leí algunos reviews que aclaraban que la nueva batería de la nueva Macbook de aluminio era más chica y&#8230;. Pero luego encontré que otros estaban muy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Newman</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112340</link>
		<dc:creator>Ari Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would it have killed apple to leave the better battery in there and be able to boast even better battery life? I was hoping for a Blu-Ray DVD option too to justify the glossy-only display decision they made. I&#039;m going to go play with one this weekend at a store - not convinced at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would it have killed apple to leave the better battery in there and be able to boast even better battery life? I was hoping for a Blu-Ray DVD option too to justify the glossy-only display decision they made. I&#8217;m going to go play with one this weekend at a store &#8211; not convinced at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Byron</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112336</link>
		<dc:creator>Byron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 04:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not seeing 5 hours out of my new macbook pro.  Its giving me 3 hours tops- but I think at times on a full charge I&#039;ve gotten under 3.

Some of this may have to do with it being the 2.8ghz model with the 7200 rpm 300 gig drive, but I&#039;m not sure how that can account for 2 hours.  I think the 5 hour estimate must be with wifi off, hard disk spun down, and backlight off.  That is the only way I could imagine making it to 5 hours on this thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not seeing 5 hours out of my new macbook pro.  Its giving me 3 hours tops- but I think at times on a full charge I&#8217;ve gotten under 3.</p>
<p>Some of this may have to do with it being the 2.8ghz model with the 7200 rpm 300 gig drive, but I&#8217;m not sure how that can account for 2 hours.  I think the 5 hour estimate must be with wifi off, hard disk spun down, and backlight off.  That is the only way I could imagine making it to 5 hours on this thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Macbook con cuerpo de aluminio en camino &#124; Fotogeek</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112330</link>
		<dc:creator>Macbook con cuerpo de aluminio en camino &#124; Fotogeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dudé. Y dudé porque leí algunos reviews que aclaraban que la nueva batería de la nueva Macbook de aluminio era más chica y.... Pero luego encontré que otros estaban muy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] dudé. Y dudé porque leí algunos reviews que aclaraban que la nueva batería de la nueva Macbook de aluminio era más chica y&#8230;. Pero luego encontré que otros estaban muy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112319</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Less battery capacity is a big minus but if you&#039;re like me and I know that not everyone is, you plug it in most of the time and don&#039;t rely on the battery that often. It&#039;s all about weight and size. There is no other valid reason to reduce battery capacity. No choice on the glossy screen, lower battery capacity, no firewire on the Macbook and no firewire 400 on the Pro... all big minuses. But on the plus side is the unibody, glass for the screen and what looks to me like almost user serviceability throughout. You certainly can change the hard drive yourself. Apple always makes less than perfect designs but as far as I&#039;m concerned overall it&#039;s beautiful and I would definitely buy it. I probably will buy one after the turn of the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less battery capacity is a big minus but if you&#8217;re like me and I know that not everyone is, you plug it in most of the time and don&#8217;t rely on the battery that often. It&#8217;s all about weight and size. There is no other valid reason to reduce battery capacity. No choice on the glossy screen, lower battery capacity, no firewire on the Macbook and no firewire 400 on the Pro&#8230; all big minuses. But on the plus side is the unibody, glass for the screen and what looks to me like almost user serviceability throughout. You certainly can change the hard drive yourself. Apple always makes less than perfect designs but as far as I&#8217;m concerned overall it&#8217;s beautiful and I would definitely buy it. I probably will buy one after the turn of the year.</p>
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		<title>By: Baterías de menor capacidad en los nuevos MacBook Pro</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112313</link>
		<dc:creator>Baterías de menor capacidad en los nuevos MacBook Pro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vía: New MacBook Pro: now with 20% less battery power [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gravitational Pull - New Mac laptops: one step forward, two steps back</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112312</link>
		<dc:creator>Gravitational Pull - New Mac laptops: one step forward, two steps back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are reports that Apple actually reduced battery capacity and battery life is suffering, according to Ars Technica&#8217;s review of the new Macbook Pro. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are reports that Apple actually reduced battery capacity and battery life is suffering, according to Ars Technica&#8217;s review of the new Macbook Pro. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Los nuevos MacBooks Pro llevan baterías de menor capacidad &#124; Appleismo</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112311</link>
		<dc:creator>Los nuevos MacBooks Pro llevan baterías de menor capacidad &#124; Appleismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vía &#124; Ryan Block  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Selección Digital&#187; PlanetaMac.es &#187; Los nuevos MacBook Pro llevan una batería de menor capacidad</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112310</link>
		<dc:creator>Selección Digital&#187; PlanetaMac.es &#187; Los nuevos MacBook Pro llevan una batería de menor capacidad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] indica Ryan Block, editor de Engadget, en su blog personal, los nuevos MacBook Pro montan una batería de menor capacidad que los anteriores modelos. En [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MacBook Pro: 20% di carica in meno - TheAppleLounge</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112307</link>
		<dc:creator>MacBook Pro: 20% di carica in meno - TheAppleLounge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] seppur raggiungibili in condizioni di massima ottimizzazione energetica. Ryan Block di Engadget sul suo blog personale fa però notare un particolare che è inizialmente sfuggito ai più: la batteria del nuovo MacBook [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Haywired 3.0 - Емкость батареи в новых MacBook Pro меньше, чем в старых</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112303</link>
		<dc:creator>Haywired 3.0 - Емкость батареи в новых MacBook Pro меньше, чем в старых</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] заметил редактор Engadget Райан Блок, емкость батареи в старых MacBook Pro составляла 5600 мА•ч / [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] заметил редактор Engadget Райан Блок, емкость батареи в старых MacBook Pro составляла 5600 мА•ч / [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno.. If the process are optimized they&#039;ll continue to be optimized even if your battery degrades. So why do you think you should replace batteries more often? 

You&#039;ll rely on smaller pools of charge that&#039;s right, but the process that before needed 100 now needs 80 so you&#039;ll be able to notice a parallel rate of degradation: the old battery that charged for 1000 after a year will charge for 900, the battery that started by taking up to 800 after one year will keep 720 and so the proportions are respected.


We&#039;re talking ideal here, obviously, but&#039; there&#039;s no way of talking practical when it comes to laptop batteries (apart from waiting) ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno.. If the process are optimized they&#8217;ll continue to be optimized even if your battery degrades. So why do you think you should replace batteries more often? </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll rely on smaller pools of charge that&#8217;s right, but the process that before needed 100 now needs 80 so you&#8217;ll be able to notice a parallel rate of degradation: the old battery that charged for 1000 after a year will charge for 900, the battery that started by taking up to 800 after one year will keep 720 and so the proportions are respected.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re talking ideal here, obviously, but&#8217; there&#8217;s no way of talking practical when it comes to laptop batteries (apart from waiting) ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Macenstein &#124; MacBook Pro battery has 20% less juice than predecessor</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112298</link>
		<dc:creator>Macenstein &#124; MacBook Pro battery has 20% less juice than predecessor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] chip, that is)? Well, it looks like that number is even more impressive than it originally sounded. Ryan Block noticed that the new MacBook Pro&#8217;s battery actually has less juice to work with than [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Los nuevos MacBook Pro llevan una batería de menor capacidad : Planeta Mac, noticias sobre Mac</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112295</link>
		<dc:creator>Los nuevos MacBook Pro llevan una batería de menor capacidad : Planeta Mac, noticias sobre Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] indica Ryan Block, editor de Engadget, en su blog personal, los nuevos MacBook Pro montan una batería de menor capacidad que los anteriores modelos. En [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Macworld &#124; Aluminium-notebook-batterier</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112290</link>
		<dc:creator>Macworld &#124; Aluminium-notebook-batterier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apples nylanserte aluminiums-notebook&#8217;er MacBook og MacBook Pro har begge fått nye batterier, som skal yte rundt 5 timer pluss-minus. Apple, som andre PC-produsenter, har en uvane med å oppgi batteri-levetid under høyst mistenkelige optimale omstendigheter, med har likevel et godt rykte på seg når det kommer til strømmen. Nå viser det seg at de nye batteriene i disse maskinene faktisk har mindre Watt-timer og Ampere enn de gamle. For eksempel har den nye MacBook Pro-modellen 4700mAh / 50Wh mot tidligere 5600mAh / 60Wh. Det betyr at denne maskinen har omtrent 20% mindre strømtilførsel enn den gamle modellen, samtidig som den har samme batteri-levetid. Dette betyr sannsynligvis at de nye grafikk-brikkene tar over for en rekke operasjoner som avlaster prosessoren - det spekuleres blandt annet i hardware-dekoding av H.264 HD-video. De nye maskinene benytter forøvrig en mer energi-sparende DDR3-minnetype. Et reserve-batteri fra Apple til de nye maskinene koster 1090,- kroner. Mon tro hva ladetiden er? Via ryanblock [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Apples nylanserte aluminiums-notebook&#8217;er MacBook og MacBook Pro har begge fått nye batterier, som skal yte rundt 5 timer pluss-minus. Apple, som andre PC-produsenter, har en uvane med å oppgi batteri-levetid under høyst mistenkelige optimale omstendigheter, med har likevel et godt rykte på seg når det kommer til strømmen. Nå viser det seg at de nye batteriene i disse maskinene faktisk har mindre Watt-timer og Ampere enn de gamle. For eksempel har den nye MacBook Pro-modellen 4700mAh / 50Wh mot tidligere 5600mAh / 60Wh. Det betyr at denne maskinen har omtrent 20% mindre strømtilførsel enn den gamle modellen, samtidig som den har samme batteri-levetid. Dette betyr sannsynligvis at de nye grafikk-brikkene tar over for en rekke operasjoner som avlaster prosessoren &#8211; det spekuleres blandt annet i hardware-dekoding av H.264 HD-video. De nye maskinene benytter forøvrig en mer energi-sparende DDR3-minnetype. Et reserve-batteri fra Apple til de nye maskinene koster 1090,- kroner. Mon tro hva ladetiden er? Via ryanblock [...]</p>
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		<title>By: onicon</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112284</link>
		<dc:creator>onicon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the new batteries have 16.67% less capacity. The old one has 20% more. Math is hard ;-)</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Paine</title>
		<link>http://ryanblock.com/2008/10/new-macbook-pro-now-with-20-less-battery-power/#comment-112283</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Paine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We see this in the netbook and umpc area too. Battery capacities are going down. It&#039;s not because of increasing efficiency, but because of cost reductions. The cheap chinese low-capp batteries allow OEMs to shave costs. 
Netbooks are to blame IMO.
http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/netbooks-price-today-problems-tomorrow

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We see this in the netbook and umpc area too. Battery capacities are going down. It&#8217;s not because of increasing efficiency, but because of cost reductions. The cheap chinese low-capp batteries allow OEMs to shave costs.<br />
Netbooks are to blame IMO.<br />
<a href="http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/netbooks-price-today-problems-tomorrow" rel="nofollow">http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/netbooks-price-today-problems-tomorrow</a></p>
<p>Steve</p>
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